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 Cripple Creek Ranch
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5/14/2018 3:24:07 AM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post   

I have stride to safe the Full Blood Simmental Blood lines, They have not advanced in a long time, I have been breeding for bone and neck, What should turn out great, Don't they are in a decline. It may be my breeding method. I don't wont them to go extinct.
So it time for someone else to try there hand in it.
Everything is up for sale!
Bulls
www.showcattle.com/herd.aspx?pasture=FB%20Sim%20Bulls&username=Cripple%20Creek%20Ranch

Cattle
www.showcattle.com/herd.aspx?pasture=FB%20Simmmi%20Breeders&username=Cripple%20Creek%20Ranch

Good Luck!
 Jstew75
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5/14/2018 6:57:04 AM reply with quote send message to Jstew75 Object to Post

I think the problem with Simmental cattle is everyone bred them for giant frames instead of proper genetics
 Thunder Mountain Ranch
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5/14/2018 9:51:58 AM reply with quote send message to Thunder Mountain Ranch Object to Post

The reason FB Simi's aren't a thing anymore is because Maine was bred in and they were bred back up to Purebred Simis.

FB Simis have no use, other than something fun as a side project. They can never catch up to Purebred Simis and can't compete in shows.

I have some really good PB simis. As does Diversify.
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5/15/2018 12:01:04 AM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

You can cross these with Brahman, Mains, Angus or other Breeds to get a cleaner cross Than,

Simbrah
0.5180% Angus
37.50% Brahman
0.04% Charolais
0.28% Hereford
7.51% Limousin
3.58% Maine-Anjou
0.06% Shorthorn
50.51% Simmental

Simangus
50.4144% Angus
0.03% Charolais
0.22% Hereford
6.01% Limousin
2.86% Maine-Anjou
0.05% Shorthorn
40.41% Simmental

And others
 Thunder Mountain Ranch
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5/15/2018 12:15:25 AM reply with quote send message to Thunder Mountain Ranch Object to Post

Yes. Still won't be anywhere near the stats that current PB Simis have.

A fun side project though.
 Cripple Creek Ranch
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5/15/2018 7:38:42 AM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

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Yes I understand, But it's not about PB it's about Crosses To make cleaner other Breeds.

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5/15/2018 8:21:48 AM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

Have you seen
www.showcattle.com/cattle.aspx?id=16505650
Really nice Bone and Neck
for a Full Blood!
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5/15/2018 12:30:17 PM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

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I'm thinking of breeding the FB to a
4.0273% Angus
1.31% Limousin
94.66% Maine-Anjou
To make a cleaner PB Simmental

And not have the extra
0.06% Charolais
0.43% Hereford
0.09% Shorthorn
added to it


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 Thunder Mountain Ranch
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5/15/2018 12:38:59 PM reply with quote send message to Thunder Mountain Ranch Object to Post

Honest question here:

Do cleaner lines matter in shows? Or just that it fits the breed "standard" for %, even with the extra breeds, and is just judged by the stats?
 Cripple Creek Ranch
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5/15/2018 12:46:10 PM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

I Believe that a cleaner line will win out in the future!
 Thunder Mountain Ranch
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5/15/2018 4:38:35 PM reply with quote send message to Thunder Mountain Ranch Object to Post

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I Believe that a cleaner line will win out in the future!
Based on stats? Because there is nothing on the site saying that cleaner lines have an edge in shows. It's all just based on the stats.

What are you getting for 40day muscle on PSM?
(I currently get 13.5-14.3+ on my pb's.)
If yours are close, I might be interested.
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5/15/2018 5:36:11 PM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

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FB wont win against PB in the shows.
it's not about PB,
It's about a cleaner cross Bread
I've been breeding for Bone and Neck,
But Cross with
4.0273% Angus
1.31% Limousin
94.66% Maine-Anjou.
Will make the muscle to make a show-able PB in the future.

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 Thunder Mountain Ranch
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5/15/2018 6:39:15 PM reply with quote send message to Thunder Mountain Ranch Object to Post

That didn't answer my question. Ha

I wasn't meaning to use FB in shows.
I'm doing crosses with the PBs I have. Wondering how the muscle compares on the FBs.
 Cripple Creek Ranch
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5/15/2018 9:16:38 PM reply with quote send message to Cripple Creek Ranch Object to Post

I would think the muscle would be less at first,
It depends on the muscle of the breed that you cross with.
Thanks
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5/17/2018 2:20:46 PM reply with quote send message to Diversify Object to Post

having the 100& available will help me get my Black Polled Simmies up to 80% much faster than only using the 80%.

I plan to breed my 60% heifers with one and see how it goes from there laugh :D

On to Experimenting!
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5/17/2018 2:22:14 PM reply with quote send message to Diversify Object to Post

I really wish i could afford one of your Really Good Cows CCR --- I'd love to try her on my 70% Black Polled Bulls

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